DUST Search - Could I please get an official explanation on 'super strafers...

Sergeant Sazu wrote:

Baal Omniscient wrote:

Sergeant Sazu wrote:

To those talking about a Sentinel surviving a PLC:

Keep in mind both the Caldari and Minmatar Sentinel receive a resistance to plasma weapons.

If maxed:
-The Caldari has a 15% resistance for shields
-The Minmatar has a 10% resistance for armor

How much health, in total, with full skills, can you fit on a BPO Quafe Caldari heavy though? That's the question. 15% of how many shields? That's dropped to 5% by plasma's +10% to shields, so 5% of how many shields? And how much armor?

(Please note that I am being generous and assuming this person has maxed out core skills, also please note that he was equipped with an MH-82, a basic ion pistol and flux grenades [assume basic] for reference on PG/CPU)

I personally don't have the Caldari Sentinel, but I know a few things.

-It's default HP is 656.25 / 487.5
-The Quafe being STD, it has 3 high slots and no low slots. A lot of room for Shield Extenders. (Though any good Caldari Sentinel knows to run a Recharger or two)

Just did some math:
Assuming the Caldari Sentinel has base HP with the dropsuit skill maxed and the KLA-90 has no Proficiency, the Sentinel will survive with 94 armor. Without the need for modules, he survives.

You need at least Prof. 5 in Plasma Cannons to one-shot a base HP Caladri Sentinel that has max skills. Since the difference in life and death is so small, if he's taken any previous damage, he's done.

I'm not 100% certain of the formula to calculate damage, but I hope this helped.


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Baal Omniscient Qualified Scrub 2110	Posted - 2015.01.06 22:50:00 - [1] - Quote I am constantly seeing players strafe faster than I can walk sideways and changing direction on a dime, literally going straight left and straight right, without any slowdown whatsoever. And it's not any particular suit either, I just saw a Caldari quafe suit doing it. Strafing straight left and straight right. Not doing circles, not slowing down a hair, walking faster sideways in a Caldari heavy than I can in my Minmatar assault (just in case you have any questions about what I run and my strafe speed). And as we've all been told innumerable times kb/m is balanced, so that couldn't possibly be the cause. So CCP Ratatti, CCP Logibro, CCP Frame, whoever may or may not be listening out there, I have played this game since Replication and this has been a thing the entire time. It's more prominent now and has gotten to the point that I'm actually calling you out on it finally. This is not simply people really good at strafing. This is something beyond simple stick twirling. Track this behavior and tell me how and why this is happening and what you plan to do to fix it. This is game breaking and is not conducive to an even playing environment and the issue is apparently spreading as I see it more often every day. Side note: Is it possible to brick a heavy Caldari Quafe suit to survive a direct hit from a KLA-90? Because this heavy also survived one of those, though with just a scrap of amor left. I know it was a KLA-90 because I was the one firing it, he was about 5 meters away and was standing still. I don't know the eHP of Caldari heavies with maxed stats as I've never run one so figured I'd crowdsource an answer. Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0 I GÖú Puppies (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.*pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
Baal Omniscient Qualified Scrub 2110	Posted - 2015.01.06 23:31:00 - [2] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Keyboard and Mouse Spam ADADADAD. Win. No, you see, kb/m users and CCP both say kb/m is balanced. This is not balanced. So obviously there is a different explanation... CCP, I am waiting. Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0 I GÖú Puppies (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.*pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
Baal Omniscient Qualified Scrub 2114	Posted - 2015.01.06 23:59:00 - [3] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Keyboard and Mouse Spam ADADADAD. Win. No, you see, kb/m users and CCP both say kb/m is balanced. This is not balanced. So obviously there is a different explanation... CCP, I am waiting. I tested My best friends K&M yesterday while running my cal/min suits. I was untouchable. Ask KilledbyHMG, he sure raged... I may have been a bit too obscure with my sarcasm.... apologies. Just trying to force CCP to look at it as a real issue to look into. This is as gamebreaking as turbo controller spam, moreso depending on the skill of the player. There's tactics to deal with it, but when a full squad on the other team is doing it you might as well wait in the MCC for the match to end. Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0 I GÖú Puppies (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.*pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
Baal Omniscient Qualified Scrub 2114	Posted - 2015.01.07 00:09:00 - [4] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: You guys are so funny, the answer is so obvious yet none of you know it =ƒÿª Idk bout kbm but it's really easy with a controller. Woe unto those who never bought Zirto's book, eh? Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0 I GÖú Puppies (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.*pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
Baal Omniscient Qualified Scrub 2121	Posted - 2015.01.07 00:15:00 - [5] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: You guys are so funny, the answer is so obvious yet none of you know it =ƒÿª Idk bout kbm but it's really easy with a controller. Woe unto those who never bought Zitro's book, eh? I cannot allow the troll god's secrets out.. But you may be able to buy one from him =ƒÿê I love it that there are still people here who still remember the good old days Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0 I GÖú Puppies (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.*pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
Baal Omniscient Qualified Scrub 2124	Posted - 2015.01.07 02:56:00 - [6] - Quote To those of you who point to lag, a question: I play Dust with my girlfriend in Finland for about 1-5 hours every day pretty much. Usually when I experience lag she doesn't, barring 'team-wide lag' where you get to fumble around and watch as you and your teammates try to reorient yourselves after your games basically paused for a few seconds while the other team was still moving and shooting; and the curious and annoying 'match-wide lag' that looks like teamwide lag, but when it catches up you expect to have to compensate for movement or relocate your target and both teams just look around confused for a moment not certain what the hell just happened..... anyway, I have terrible internet and she has crazy good internet, well over 20Mb, so when I lag I know it's my internet based on what she sees. I've played Dust with her for well over a year now, she knows her way around Dust better than a good 98% of you, and when she and I both see a squad moving in this manner, and can pretty much identify them as a squad because of the way they move, no one else on their team strafing like them, I find it hard to blame it on lag. However, I have no deep knowledge of how such things function let alone how they screw up. I just know that CCP needs to look into it, they need to post their findings, and they need to fix the entire issue in one fell swoop ASAP. Prompt customer service for an issue they've barely touched at all over the last year unless the whole server went to **. That's not asking too much, right? = P If it's kb/m, pull the cord on it until it's fixed. If CCP could prevent all turbo controllers they would, why do we allow the kb/m then when it's twice as bad? A turbo controller with aim assist on vs a semi-experienced kb/m user, the kb/m user wins every time unless teamwork interferes or dumb luck comes your way. More bullets fired doesn't mean when they can't hit the target. I've heard kb/m users whine for a while now how bad the control is, rebalance that ** and put it out. If it's not kb/m, write in detail what it is and how it's being addressed. Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0 I GÖú Puppies (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.*pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
Baal Omniscient Qualified Scrub 2124	Posted - 2015.01.07 03:05:00 - [7] - Quote Sergeant Sazu wrote: To those talking about a Sentinel surviving a PLC: Keep in mind both the Caldari and Minmatar Sentinel receive a resistance to plasma weapons. If maxed: -The Caldari has a 15% resistance for shields -The Minmatar has a 10% resistance for armor How much health, in total, with full skills, can you fit on a BPO Quafe Caldari heavy though? That's the question. 15% of how many shields? That's dropped to 5% by plasma's +10% to shields, so 5% of how many shields? And how much armor? (Please note that I am being generous and assuming this person has maxed out core skills, also please note that he was equipped with an MH-82, a basic ion pistol and flux grenades [assume basic] for reference on PG/CPU) Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0 I GÖú Puppies (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.*pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
Baal Omniscient Qualified Scrub 2124	Posted - 2015.01.07 03:06:00 - [8] - Quote 7th Son 7 wrote: Damn Nyan San, you see what you tought everybody? lol. Also try lightening your armor. ....you didn't look at my fit, did you? Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0 I GÖú Puppies (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.*pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
Baal Omniscient Qualified Scrub 2127	Posted - 2015.01.07 18:16:00 - [9] - Quote Sergeant Sazu wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: Sergeant Sazu wrote: To those talking about a Sentinel surviving a PLC: Keep in mind both the Caldari and Minmatar Sentinel receive a resistance to plasma weapons. If maxed: -The Caldari has a 15% resistance for shields -The Minmatar has a 10% resistance for armor How much health, in total, with full skills, can you fit on a BPO Quafe Caldari heavy though? That's the question. 15% of how many shields? That's dropped to 5% by plasma's +10% to shields, so 5% of how many shields? And how much armor? (Please note that I am being generous and assuming this person has maxed out core skills, also please note that he was equipped with an MH-82, a basic ion pistol and flux grenades [assume basic] for reference on PG/CPU) I personally don't have the Caldari Sentinel, but I know a few things. -It's default HP is 656.25 / 487.5 -The Quafe being STD, it has 3 high slots and no low slots. A lot of room for Shield Extenders. (Though any good Caldari Sentinel knows to run a Recharger or two) Just did some math: Assuming the Caldari Sentinel has base HP with the dropsuit skill maxed and the KLA-90 has no Proficiency, the Sentinel will survive with 94 armor. Without the need for modules, he survives. You need at least Prof. 5 in Plasma Cannons to one-shot a base HP Caladri Sentinel that has max skills. Since the difference in life and death is so small, if he's taken any previous damage, he's done. I'm not 100% certain of the formula to calculate damage, but I hope this helped. Immensely, thank you very much. Thought it weird but didn't want to start screaming HAXS when I don't know the suit or the bonuses very well. Much obliged. Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0 I GÖú Puppies (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.*pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
Baal Omniscient Qualified Scrub 2127	Posted - 2015.01.07 18:18:00 - [10] - Quote 7th Son 7 wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: 7th Son 7 wrote: Damn Nyan San, you see what you tought everybody? lol. Also try lightening your armor. ....you didn't look at my fit, did you? Sorry dude I can't from my phone, which im on now. A smart phone that's kinda smart lol. So, im in the dark on how much armor All good. In short I run a single complex ferroscale. Other than that, no plates. Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0 I GÖú Puppies (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.*pâ+n+ín+ƒ.